Risky Business News Podcast
July 15, 2025
Between Two Nerds: Is US cyber espionage too careful?
Presented by

The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher

Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq examine whether US cyber operations are too stealthy. Could they get more bang for the buck if they adopted a devil may care attitude to getting busted?
This episode is also available on Youtube.
Between Two Nerds: Is US cyber espionage too careful?
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