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Pitching security startups to VCs in the AI era

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this podcast Patrick Gray and James Wilson chat with Decibel Partners founder and Managing Partner Jon Sakoda to talk about pitching cybersecurity startups to VC firms in the AI age.

Coding agents and large language models have made it easier than ever to create software products, but despite this, the bar for what interests an investor is still largely the same. Everyone can run the marathon, but it’s usually the same few folks who finish first.

So tune in to hear Jon share with us his wisdom on when to start the conversation with investors, how to leverage the experience of the founder community, and what founders should watch out for.

Between Two Nerds: The PRC vs AI

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss the idea that the People’s Republic of China has mobilised its influence operations against the construction of US data centres and its build out of AI capacity.

Srsly Risky Biz: Anthropic has artificial, but not emotional, intelligence

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

Amberleigh Jack
Amberleigh Jack

Producer and Editor

Tom Uren and James Wilson talk about Anthropic rolling out its latest models only to have them effectively banned by the US government within days. Although the administration’s process for assessing new models is, ahem, amorphous, Anthropic is doing itself no favours by dismissing its concerns. The company needs to show some emotional intelligence and learn how to manage upwards.

They also discuss Section 702 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act collection. The law authorising it has lapsed amidst political shenanigans, but it looks like collection can continue until next year. Plenty of time for kicking of political footballs!

Risky Business Weekly (842): Anthropic needs an adult in the C suite

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Co-host at large

On this week’s show Patrick Gray, Adam Boileau and James Wilson discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. They cover:

  • Anthropic’s Fable 5 and Mythos 5 get nuked by the US government four days after launch “because security”
  • Why “guardrails” won’t keep the world safe from your AI doomsday machine
  • The FISA 702 statute expired, but the spying can (probably) continue!
  • NPM v12 delivers some protection against supply chain attacks, but not enough.
  • Microsoft has a series of bugs that prevent Windows Update from … updating
  • Much, much more!

This episode is also available on YouTube

Between Two Nerds: Why NATO and cyber don't mix

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about how NATO is set up to deter conventional conflict, and how that approach is fundamentally unsuited for ongoing, everyday cyber operations that tackle adversaries.

Srsly Risky Biz: Europe wants to wean itself off US tech

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

Amberleigh Jack
Amberleigh Jack

Producer and Editor

Tom Uren and James Wilson talk about the European Union’s digital sovereignty push. A divorce from US tech giants is on the cards, but building sovereign infrastructure and chip capacity will be hard. From an American perspective this is an entirely predicable own-goal. You can have internationally competitive tech giants or you can have an aggressive and coercive foreign policy. You can’t have both at the same time.

They also discuss the reanimated corpse of NSO Group. It’s in a hole, but it just keeps digging.

Risky Business (841): Microsoft gets owned and 0day'd

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Co-host at large

On this week’s show special guest co-host Chris Wade, the founder of Corellium turned Cellebrite CTO, joins Patrick Gray and James Wilson to discuss the week’s cybersecurity news.

They cover:

  • Microsoft has repos owned, GitHub tokens popped, and a new 0day dropped on them
  • Meanwhile, researchers are choosing full disclosure instead of engaging MSRC
  • Meta’s AI support agent allowed a staggering 20,000 accounts to be stolen!
  • Apple pulls Russia’s MAX messenger from the App Store and disables notifications
  • Anthropic gives the public our first Mythos-class model but it won’t do cybersecurity work…

Between Two Nerds: Nerds at NATO

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq speak at the NATO CyCon conference on Cyber Conflict in Tallinn, Estonia. The pair discuss how cyber operations complement conventional military operations and the past, present and future of cyber conflict.

Soap Box: Detection and response in the AI age

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Edward Wu, founder of Dropzone, about what AI is doing to detection, response and the SOC more generally.

Dropzone makes AI agents that conduct alert investigations in your SOC, but will the SOC as we know it even exist in the future?

Ed has a deep expertise in SOC tech, having previously led AI/ML detection engineering at Extrahop. This interview is a fantastic look at what the future may bring for detection and response professionals.

Srsly Risky Biz: NATO's cyber approach needs to change

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

Amberleigh Jack
Amberleigh Jack

Producer and Editor

Tom Uren and James Wilson talk about Tom’s trip to NATO’s Cyber Conflict conference. NATO countries want to bulk up their cyber efforts, and the pair discuss what that could look like.

They also look at the US military’s admission that commercial location data was used to target personnel involved in Epic Fury, the US war on Iran. This is not surprising at all, and is just the most visible manifestation of the national security risks of this kind of data sloshing around. If Iran is analysing this data in wartime, China is doing it in peacetime for intelligence and counter-espionage purposes.