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Soap Box: HD Moore talks OT security, frontier fearmongering and more

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with industry legend HD Moore about how his company runZero wound up being used heavily to discover OT devices in enterprise networks.

They also talk about the vulnpocalypse and how frontier lab fearmongering is reminiscent of the collective freakout when HD released the Metasploit exploit framework back in 2003.

Between Two Nerds: The AI crime machine

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about the rise of fully automated LLM-driven hacking campaigns among criminals and even state hacking groups. For those with the right risk appetite, a move fast and break things hacking approach using AI can pay off.

Srsly Risky Biz: Bring on the AI lawsuits

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

Amberleigh Jack
Amberleigh Jack

Producer and Editor

Tom Uren and Patrick Gray talk about US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent ruling out liability exemptions for AI companies. Its a good move. Leaving the companies on the hook keeps the pressure on them to do better with their cyber security and testing controls.

They also discuss a Russian AI-powered cyberespionage campaign run by a group known as Midnight Blizzard. It used AI workflows to run the entire campaign so they got a lot more hacking done and accepted AI mistakes. This makes sense given that they want more intelligence from Ukrainian targets and don’t care at all about getting caught.

Risky Business (854): We're Jevpilled

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Co-host at large

THE RISKY BUSINESS WEEKLY SHOW IS NOW ON HIATUS FOR TWO WEEKS AND WILL RETURN OCTOBER 14

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and James Wilson are joined by Adam Boileau to talk through the week’s news, including:

  • Google’s Gemini finally did some crimes
  • OpenAI admits more agents did silly things because “alignment”
  • US Treasury’s Scott Bessent rules out a liability waiver for the frontier labs, saying, roughly: “Lol. Lmao even.”
  • Jev is Silicon Valley’s “hot dog/not hotdog” app brought to life, and it will really improve security tooling
  • The FBI and Coast Guard boarded oil tankers after they were allegedly hacked…

Between Two Nerds: Real-time cyber defence

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about whether there is such a thing as real-time cyber defence. Will agentic defenders save us from hacking AI?

Risky Business (853): We're all gonna die, apparently

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Co-host at large

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and James Wilson are joined by former US Cyber Command executive director turned PwC’s Cyber, Data & Technology Risk leader Morgan Adamski to talk through the week’s news, including:

  • More tech guys penned more open letters and AI will destroy us all!
  • Another Wednesday, another congregation of OpenAI agents on wikis… yawn
  • OpenAI agents were behind the headscratching RubyGems hacking campaign in May
  • The FBI will disrupt more adversary operations, NSA is creating more mission centres, lawmakers want sanctions on hackers-for-hire… * Release more hounds!
  • So many platforms, so many bugs, so many patches breaking other stuff…

Snake Oilers: watchTowr, XBOW and CoreView

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcast three vendors stop by to pitch the audience on their products:

Srsly Risky Biz: America's drivers licence breach is a national security disaster

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

Amberleigh Jack
Amberleigh Jack

Producer and Editor

Tom Uren and James Wilson talk about how Chinese intelligence services will take advantage of a massive breach of 150 million American drivers licences.

They also discuss the steps the US military is taking to counter adtech device tracking. It’s too slow and not enough.

Finally, they talk about how often cryptocurrency hackers claim to be white hat hackers. Its ludicrous, but suprisingly often it is a successful strategy.

Risky Business (852): Cyber Command wants to buy shells

Presented by

Patrick Gray
Patrick Gray

CEO and Publisher

Adam Boileau
Adam Boileau

Co-host at large

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and James Wilson are joined by guest co-host Robby Winchester from SpecterOps to talk through the week’s news, including:

  • ID verification company IDScan was breached and 153m driver licenses wound up for sale online. Cue the barrage of lawsuits
  • The US government plans to pay private contractors to conduct military hacks
  • The US accuses China of distillation attacks, a.k.a. forbidden training
  • It’s Wednesday, so OpenAI’s agents escaped sandboxes again and passed notes around on a German Wiki
  • Much, much more…

This week’s show is brought to you by Sublime Security. Sublime’s head of detection engineering Randy Pargman joins the show to chat about how the company is preparing for prompt injection attacks to move from being largely theoretical to commonplace….

Between Two Nerds: Can AI defend critical infrastructure?

Presented by

Tom Uren
Tom Uren

Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
The Grugq

Independent Security Researcher

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about whether AI will help cyber defence in critical infrastructure and organisations that are below the cyber poverty line.