Risky Business News Podcast
August 19, 2025
Between Two Nerds: Cyber myopia
Presented by

The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher

Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about whether the cyber industry and intelligence agencies focus too much on technical details and ignore the bigger picture.
This episode is also available on Youtube.
Between Two Nerds: Cyber myopia
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Show notes
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