Risky Business News Podcast
November 04, 2025
Between Two Nerds: Lost in transmission
Presented by
    
        The Grugq
        
Independent Security Researcher
    
        Tom Uren
        
Policy & Intelligence
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss the futility of using aggressive cyber operations to send messages between states.
This episode is also available on Youtube.
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Show notes
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