Risky Business News Podcast
October 23, 2025
Srsly Risky Biz: Hacking for Godot
Presented by

Amberleigh Jack
Producer and Editor

Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence
Tom Uren and Amberleigh Jack talk about how America can better use its private sector to scale up offensive cyber activities, including espionage and disruption operations. Involving it to tackle ransomware and cryptocurrency scammers makes a lot of sense.
They also talk about how the ransomware ecosystem is splintering, and one operator’s relatively quick journey from being an affiliate to a platform operator.
This episode is also available on Youtube.
Srsly Risky Biz: Hacking for Godot
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Show notes
From Chaos to Capability: Building the US Market for Offensive Cyber