Risky Business Video
July 14, 2025
Between Two Nerds: Is US cyber espionage too careful?
Presented by

Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq examine whether US cyber operations are too stealthy. Could they get more bang for the buck if they adopted a devil may care attitude to getting busted?
Show notes:
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