Risky Business Video
July 07, 2025
Between Two Nerds: The opportunity in Asia
Presented by

Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about how there is an opportunity for the US to expand its 0day and talent acquisition pool to Asia. They revisit a paper comparing the Chinese and American 0day acquisition strategies and have some quibbles.
Show notes:
- Crash (exploit) and burn: Securing the offensive cyber supply chain to counter China in cyberspace at https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/crash-exploit-and-burn/