Risky Business Video
May 19, 2025
Between Two Nerds: Why hackers and spies don't mix
Presented by

Tom Uren
Policy & Intelligence

The Grugq
Independent Security Researcher
In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq examine what makes it hard for even competent hackers to contribute to state-backed espionage agencies.
Show notes:
- The I-Soon cyber espionage contractor data leak https://news.risky.biz/risky-biz-briefing-the-i-soon-data-leak/