Between Two Nerds: Why the FBI and Shiny Hunters are the same

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In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq examine how ShinyHunters and the FBI both deceived themselves into believing they were immune to cyber threats.

Show notes:

• Krebs On Security, https://krebsonsecurity.com/2026/09/dutch-police-arrest-reformed-hacker-in-shiny-hunters-investigation/
• FBI Director Kash Patel on ShinyHunters, https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/2105322564247503190
• Brett Leatherman, the FBI Assistant Director for Cyber on ShinyHunters, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxLNRd7WvzU
• Hacker’s Manifesto, 1986, https://phrack.org/issues/7/hackers-manifesto
• FBI and Ubiquitous Technical Surveillance, https://news.risky.biz/why-iran-is-a-scaredy-cat-cyber-chicken/#universal-surveillance-is-here-and-the-fbi-just-dont-care
• FBI padding the top 10 list arrest numbers, https://www.ms.now/news/fbi-insiders-kash-patel-is-padding-the-stats-to-boost-his-record-of-arrests