The Wide World of Cyber podcast is back! In this episode host Patrick Gray chats with Alex Stamos and Chris Krebs about Microsoft’s entanglement in China.

Redmond has been using Chinese engineers to do everything from remotely support US DoD private cloud systems to maintain the on premise version of the SharePoint code base. It’s all blown up in the press over the last month, but how did we get here? Did Microsoft make these decisions to save money? Or was it more about getting access to the Chinese market? And how can we all make the world’s most important software company stop doing things like this? Tune in to the Wide World of Cyber podcast to find out!